The following is an excerpt from a question and answer session
concerning Chapters 3 and 4 of Frederick Douglass’ historical book “My Bondage,
My Freedom” which occurred on July 16, 2013 between my daughter and me.
Question #1:
Did Christian preachers own slaves?
Answer #1:
Some American Christian preachers did, and some did
not. Some Christian preachers supported the
institution of American slavery, and some supported the abolitionist movement. There were Christian preachers who not only
owned slaves, but received significant amounts of financial support (generated
from slave labor) from wealthy slave owners in exchange for so-called spiritual
guidance. Many of the Christian
preachers, and Christian slave owners, during Frederick Douglass’ time justified
slavery through twisted biblical verses such as the curse placed on Ham. It is important to understand that when the
Catholic Church and the Holy Roman Empire began the transatlantic slave trade
in the 15th century, with the issuing of Papal Bull Dum Diversas, that Portugal
was given the monopoly to trade for, and kidnap, non-Christian ‘heathens’ and
tribal war captives, which would then be enslaved and supplied to the Spanish
colonies in the Caribbean. After the Protestant
Reformation and the climax of the British Empire, Britain had elevated the
transatlantic slave trade to new heights in supplying the North American
colonies with Africans. After the
American Revolution, in the first decade of the 19th century, the
transatlantic slave trade was abolished in the United States (more to damage
Britain economically than out of moral reasons) and the process of reproducing slaves
domestically was increased (although the illegal import of African slaves
continued) in the U.S. Due to slave
revolts in places like Jamaica and Virginia (Nat Turner), slave owners began to
utilize Christianity on American slaves to imbue them with a passive,
submissive, and accepting ideology based on an afterlife heaven which would
reward the physical sufferings of this world.
Since the majority of slaves in early 19th century U.S. were
now raised on American soil and indoctrinated with Christianty from youth, many
overzealous and devout Christian slave owners (especially the slave owner
wives) began to question the afterlife penalty of Christian enslaving Christian. During this period, the original religious-based
slavery transformed to race-based slavery and Christians began to use biblical
justifications (toward the enslavement and inferior position of black slaves)
such as the curse placed on Noah’s son, Ham.
Question #2:
What would happen if an overseer was disguised as an
abolitionist? (Note: I had to instruct
her that this question made no sense, but took the time to explain overseers
and the economic levels of white American society during slavery).
Answer #2: What
is indeed the difference between a land owning slave owner and an
overseer? One main answer of distinction,
among many similarities, is capital. Not
every white immigrant in the colonies or the young United States had capital to
buy land or slaves. While the modern media
purposely leaves Jewish capital out of the history lessons and attempts to
paint a basic black-white historical picture of slavery, the economic structure
is often neglected. There are no excuses
for the atrocities committed within the institution of slavery, whether by
owner or by machine part, but the economic structure needs to be understood. Overseers, in the vast majority of cases,
owned no capital to buy land or slaves and were reliant of those with capital
(the landowners and slave owners) for employment. Often, the overseers were poor, uneducated
white men with no trade or technical skills.
They were often bitter about their plight and position in society, and
often brutally took it out on slaves. It
is important to be able to identify whites who brought capital from the old
world, whites who owned capital generated in the new world, whites who had no
capital and worked within the system of slavery to generate capital through
labor, and the poor unskilled whites of great ignorance. As Marx states in his multi-volume book
entitled “Capital”, one must own capital to generate capital. With this being said, a person with no
capital has only one way to generate capital: labor/work.
Question #3:
Did slave owners agree when overseers treated slaves? (Note: this was another question that I
instructed her needed refinement)
Answer #3:
I assume you mean when an overseer punished a slave in
excess. This would probably depend on
the personage of the slave owner. As
Douglass mentions, slave owners viewed their slaves a mere property no different
than horses or cattle. Today, some car
owners do not take care of their vehicles while others take very good care of
their cars. I would assume in some
scenarios that slave owners would endorse heavy punishments for incidents such
as running, drinking, or being late to the fields, etc. (anything decreasing
profits) in order to maintain estate discipline. At the same time, slave labor was what generated
capital for the slave owner and if an overseer implemented excess damage or
starvation (for disgruntled personal reasons) to the slave owner’s property
that devalued it or decreased the profits generated from it, I would assume that
the overseer would have been disciplined, docked pay, or dismissed. Again, the overseer class in America usually
consisted of the most uneducated class of poor whites.
Question #4:
Why did Frederick Douglass have to learn the Lord’s Prayer?
Answer #4:
As mentioned previously. Frederick Douglass (somewhere
between the age of 8-10) and the other slave children in that age group were
forced to learn this prayer, and Christianity in general, in order to
indoctrinate slaves from a young age to except their position as slaves in this
physical world (based on the Bible and an afterlife promise in heaven) in order
to discourage slave revolts and encourage submissive productivity. Christianity is the perfect religious
ideology to create a passive/submissive population of laborers.
Question #5:
Would the slave owner punish Frederick Douglass like he did
Esther if he saw him spying?
Answer #5:
You clearly did not understand what Esther was being
punished for, which is the real topic here, although we have discussed this
before. In past conversations, we talked
about the vulnerability of female slaves who faced the lust of their slave
owners. The female slave had no
protection from the slave owner’s advances or rape, since by law she was his
property. Many slave owners took slave
women and, as we spoke about in Chapters 1 & 2, this often brought the vengeance
of the slave owner’s Christian white wife down of the slave woman who was
victimized (and in many cases impregnated by the salve owner). After all, if you recollect Chapter 2 or 3,
there were whispers around Colonel Lloyd’s plantation that Frederick Douglass’
father may have been the slave owner himself.
In the particular case of Esther’s whipping, which Frederick Douglass
spied, the slave owner was in lust of her.
We do not know through the written account if the slave owner had taken
her previously, but the fact remains that Esther had fallen in love with a male
slave of her own age (on the plantation) and the slave owner, in his pathetic
blind jealously, forbid her to ever see him.
Love can be a strong human element, and Esther defied the slave owner’s
demands and was caught with the slave that won her heart. She was whipped with the lash and the flesh
torn on her back, broken open and bloody, because of that slave owner’s lust
and jealousy. This topic will be
discussed again in this book, and the Harriet Jacobs book which we will read
later. To answer your original question,
I highly doubt that the slave owner would pay much attention to Douglass since
he was so young. At the same time, I
suppose it would depend on the personality and the mood.
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